But if I buy Rotas. . .

"YSI-what can brown do for you" (ysi-what-can-brown-do-for-you) 01/27/2014 at 12:02 • Filed to: None

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All I am saying is. . .

900 dollars guys. 900 dollars!!!

And people autocross them all the time!

I mean it is pretty common. Plus they wheels are fairly light. Titans are 17.8 and Torques are 19lbs.

Hell, even full on race cars have Rotas. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

All I am trying to say is. . .I might get them.

That is all.

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:06

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900 is ~ 1/3 of my regular total car budget

RacecaR > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:07

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I see nothing wrong with Rotas, unless you are building a track dedicated car. Do what you do man.

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 12:07

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Wheels aint cheap if you want 17". Some days I wish I had a Miata, you can get a great set for like 600 dollars.

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:08

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Steelies ~ $200 with tires already mounted and balanced haha

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 12:10

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Yeah, but those are heavy! Plus, can you get them in 17x9?

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:10

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No shame in doing so. I actually think it's a bit silly to blow that much cash on a part that's so easily ruined and generally have pretty low resale value.

Granted, I did the same myself years ago. The weight loss did change the driving experience significantly and the wheels have survived until now, but I've been actively dodging potholes since they were put on.

YSI-what can brown do for you > RacecaR 01/27/2014 at 12:11

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It is not a dedicated track car, it is mostly a daily driver with one or two autocrosses a month. I might track the car, but maybe once a year.

YSI-what can brown do for you > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 01/27/2014 at 12:13

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I dodge potholes now anyway, they just hurt my back. They aren't going to be year round wheels though. I will probably use the OEM wheels as late fall/winter wheels and the Rotas as summer wheels(with summer tires obviously).

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:15

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I might be a different kind of Jalop. I've never done anything with my cars in which the weight of the wheels would make a difference, and if someone had mentioned Rotas to me before I would have no idea what they were talking about nor will I probably remember after this post.

Tekamul > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:15

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Why not 16's? When I pick up summer wheels, I think I'm going with 16's. I like the meaty tire look

YSI-what can brown do for you > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 12:17

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Tire selection, 16s are pretty limited I think. I think 15s have many more option, but they don't fit on these cars.

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 12:18

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If you google them you might. People say they break all the time. . . after some ridiculous situation, like taking a jump at 60 or hitting a curb at 40 or something.

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:21

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I refuse to run wheels I can't jump at 60mph or hop a curb at 40mph.

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 12:22

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Well I mean, if you are off roading, these might not be the wheels for you.

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:23

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I could veer off the road at any minute!

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 12:26

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Get a control man!!!

CalzoneGolem > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:28

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Don't you tell ME how to live MY life!

Tekamul > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:30

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It's all in the sizing. There are a lot of 225/50 tires, if you keep to a close-to-stock width.

If you wanna go wide, it gets a little tough. There are some options at 245/45, but almost no 255's that will fit.

N/A POWAAAHH > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:33

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Notice how most of these failures are 8 years old and on honda forums?

I'm sure Rota has improved their quality, considering they have gotten lots of attention lately.

Also, that story you shared is bs, 2 wheels would on break like that if you lost traction and slid into a curb.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 12:34

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Well, 245/40 is my planned tire width. 255's rub on stock suspension which I will be keeping for some time.

I personally don't like the way the 16s look, which is one reason I am going with 17s. Although, 16s will probably be really light!

Textured Soy Protein > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:36

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I think you're on the right track. You don't need to get uber fancy wheels for super big piles of money. Just get reasonably light weight wheels that won't explode and are the size you want.

From your various posts I'm assuming you want to run some kind of black or dark gray light weight 17x9" wheel with 5x100 bolt pattern and +42 to +45 offset.

Forged wheels are the best. They're expensive. Some lighter weight cast wheels if they're made with fancy casting processes are still durable and cheap(er) than forged. That's why you see anecdotal stories about the occasional Rota or Kosei light weight cast wheels having problems. Most are probably fine.

If you really want that piece of mind, you can:

1. Spend a little more on something that uses a more-fancy casting technology, like Enkei RPF1. Tire Rack has the 17x9s for $279 each which isn't bad.

2. Go for a cheaper but few pounds heavier wheel that will take more abuse than something both cheap and super light. Like the Enjei Kojin at 21 lbs.

Stupidru > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 12:43

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not to mention cheaper wheels, cheaper tires, better turn-in, and better mileage with said combo

JACU - I've got bonifides. > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 12:46

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Track dedicated car. Rotas. No problem.

efme > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 12:48

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i think you can still get the meaty tire look with some meaty 17s

RMudkips > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 12:58

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Those are an awesome wheel. Where'd you get them? I know Watanabes aren't all common.

Tekamul > RMudkips 01/27/2014 at 13:05

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They're not mine, this was a shot of somebody's ride from a different forum. An example of a good non-oem fit. 16x8 with 225/50 tires. These are Enkei Compe's, you can get them here :
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/enk-4776…

LandSpeed-DSM > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 13:05

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I have a set of Rotas with summer rubber that get used on my DD, car has been tracked.. still shiny side up.

Tekamul > Stupidru 01/27/2014 at 13:10

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That was exactly my point, instead of saving money with Rotas, go down a size. The Enkei's pictured are only $165 a piece. But I realize most modern cars were designed with a larger wheel look in mind.

Running 16's definitely looks decidedly retro, but that's the way I'll go.

Stupidru > Tekamul 01/27/2014 at 13:22

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I'm sure your arse appreciates it too. I know I'm downsizing from 17s to 16s on my Impreza

daiheadjai > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 13:42

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I can't find Rota Torques in 17x8 5x100 for any offset other than 48 - the BRZ rear wheels already look sunken stock +48...

And Rotas (for some reason) are damn hard to find in Canada.

Sinanigans > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 13:43

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Rotas are great! I know quite a few track whores that use them. Couple of Subaru racing teams use em. Turn In Concepts uses them on their track only STI.

YSI-what can brown do for you > daiheadjai 01/27/2014 at 13:45

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If you are willing, they also offer them in 17x9 in many more offsets. I would check it out.

Also, see if wheeldude sends them to Canada, he is a Rota dealer of sorts.

YSI-what can brown do for you > CalzoneGolem 01/27/2014 at 13:47

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It is for your own good!!!

YSI-what can brown do for you > Textured Soy Protein 01/27/2014 at 13:53

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I would love to buy RPF1s but I just can't stand the way they look. Super functional but not super sexy.

And I want a 17x9 with a +35mm or a +40mm offset. I would get the Kojin, but I want something lighter than stock or as light. It is becoming fairly difficult for me to select a wheel cause of how damn picky I am.

YSI-what can brown do for you > N/A POWAAAHH 01/27/2014 at 13:55

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Right, it looked like the broke it in with a hammer. It was ridiculous.

I think I am going to bite and buy a set in the summer. I will check for cracks every month or so just to be safe, but I don't think anything will happen, considering how many people run it without problems.

YSI-what can brown do for you > JACU - I've got bonifides. 01/27/2014 at 13:55

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Excellent! I am gaining a lot more confidence in these wheels.

YSI-what can brown do for you > LandSpeed-DSM 01/27/2014 at 13:55

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How long have you had them?

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 14:07

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Sounds like a plan. I was referring more to the stuff like Volks and BBS ... don't know how people drive around on those without worrying all the time.

Probably looking at a set of Rotas for the girl's car once the tires wear out. The prev owner put some pretty hideous wheels on it ...

LandSpeed-DSM > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 14:29

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Spring 2008, one previous owner. 15x7 Rota Slips in 4x100

magman007 > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 14:40

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I have em, I love em, I have bashed one of them into a curb and just the outer lip bent a bit. no signs of anything going bad.

WhereAreMyPants > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 17:17

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Buy them. Any wheel can break, and the internets don't understand that they will, if you run them into crubs and fentses.

I had a set on my Miata, on crappy, potholed, expansion-jointed DC roads and never had a lick of a problem. Not the same for my "super high quality" stock Racing Hart wheels.

daiheadjai > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 17:45

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Thanks - I looked into that - the only option I've found thus far is et 30 17x9, which I'm concerned will rub (I will stay on stock suspension, and would prefer to keep my tires 225 max)

YSI-what can brown do for you > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 01/27/2014 at 17:47

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Maybe they have fat stacks? Cause I know I would be worried about even chipping the wheels paint. Some people pay nearly 10 grand for wheels like HRE or PUR. Stupid I say!

Another option would be going with 16s, but I like to keep a similar diameter to stock for style reasons :D

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 19:28

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I love those Speed Bronze Torques. I might get a set for the STi this year. I think it will look killer. StereotypicalIndian, what color is your BRZ/FRS?

YSI-what can brown do for you > daiheadjai 01/27/2014 at 20:14

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Those won't rub. My friend ran a +35mm 17x9, and his car didn't rub even when he added camber. This was with stock suspension as well. The 30mm option should be good but it might poke a bit. You can drop the car and it might work.

YSI-what can brown do for you > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 01/27/2014 at 20:18

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It is orange. I am thinking of buying the Torques in black or the Titans in black as well.

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 20:19

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+1 for the Torques. 18x 9.5?

YSI-what can brown do for you > WhereAreMyPants 01/27/2014 at 20:25

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This is good to know. I am going to go with these wheels and we will see how it goes. Shouldn't be too bad.

YSI-what can brown do for you > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 01/27/2014 at 20:26

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No I am probably going to go with 17x9. Don't want to change the wheel diameter away from stock.

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/27/2014 at 20:29

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Nice! The 9" will give it that sweet concave look that accents the fenders

YSI-what can brown do for you > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 01/27/2014 at 21:51

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Oh yes it will! Plus they will be great for autocross. I am basically using the STX rules to the max!

William Byrd > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/28/2014 at 13:49

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Get them. I had them on my 9-2X Aero and loved them. Would buy again. And I autocrossed with them.

Soooo much cheaper with the same look.

YSI-what can brown do for you > William Byrd 01/28/2014 at 13:55

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I personally don't care about name brands. I want cheap, strong wheels that look good. I also want them to be light, but that isn't as important. Torques are 2lbs lighter than stock so I am good to go there as well!

William Byrd > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/28/2014 at 13:57

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What are you waiting for, get off of Oppo and buy them! Then SR20 for us.

YSI-what can brown do for you > William Byrd 01/28/2014 at 13:58

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Prepare to see them either this spring or middle summer!